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"Hectare at 200 km from Moscow is cheaper than a flight to Vladik"

How Facebook users decided to organize in a cooperative on honey production in the Far East

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10 August user Dmitry Mikhaylin Published on his Facebook page a reflection on how collective cooperative efforts can be arranged on the "Far Eastern hectares" cooperative for the production of honey and the export of products to China.In the comments a serious discussion arose: despite the fact that the absolute majority of users supported the idea by putting the " + ", Some reacted to the initiative quite aggressively, EastRussia is studying the controversy in the blog.

Dmitry Mikhaylin: About the Far East hectare. That's what I thought.

To take this hectare or several (give each family member) to one - it is completely meaningless. Even if you are going to live there. Not going - even more so.

But to take many people a lot of hectares nearby - the meaning appears. There is a synergy, a pool of efforts, competences, resources.

Look, what an idea. We unite - to begin with as a group in the FB. We choose a place. I have good contacts in Minvostokrazvitiya - there is, with whom to consult. We hire a person who will apply for a hectare to everyone. We are creating a cooperative. The costs at this stage - for several thousand rubles, anyone will pull.

But you do not just take the land, you have to do something on it. And I, imagine, I even know what. Honey.

Next - China. This is a bottomless market. All Chinese middle class and higher class are trying to consume normal products - and not the chemical rubbish they produce. They (fairly) value Russian products. Now the mass of everything, including honey, is exported to China. And this flow will only increase.

Honey - not spoiled. Never ever. Byproducts of beekeeping are gladly taken by pharmaceutical companies, including Chinese companies. Enter the market with a monoproduct - not Newton's binomial. Including to organize your own, without intermediaries, export. Main conditions: stable quality and volume. And they are provided by cooperation.

Everything can be arranged like this. Everyone has a hectare. We hire people - a specialist beekeeper, workers (if the problem with the presence of local personnel - foreign experts to help us, from Uzbekistan, North Korea or the same China), most of them are seasonal. The required minimum of management. Here we must understand that, in principle, beekeeping does not require a large number of personnel and some very serious equipment.

In the summer we make honey, we sell it in the winter. Hives pay for one - the first - the season. With hired personnel and the need to create a minimal infrastructure - maybe two. It is necessary to consider. The state promises some kind of infrastructure - for example, road and electricity - to build at its own expense. And the more so it will do, if in one place there will be many AREAS of hectares.

In any case, the logic is this: the more members of the cooperative, the lower the costs of each and the less the payback period. 50 person is better than 10. 100 is better than 50. 1000 - this is a very serious player in the market and generally a penny investment of each. And while business does not belong to anyone - the cooperative belongs to itself, that is, the participants. The logic of the cooperative is simple: one person - one vote.

Roughly clear, and how to build a cooperative. Firstly, the country's best experts on this issue are known - farmers cooperatives LavkaLavka and Mark and Lev. Secondly, the hive is also a very convenient unit of measurement. That is, the contribution of each will be considered according to some integral indicator of land + number of hives + invested funds. Accordingly, everyone will receive income based on this indicator.

The price of entry (if you own a hectare) - for example, one hive. On a hectare you can place a maximum of as many hives (there are the same standards). If someone wants more - can rent very cheap land of another member of the cooperative. This "inexpensive" will allow him, for example, to pay land tax (he is very small in Russia).

And so on. This all needs to be thought through, but I like the circuit now. Moreover, it can be developed in general in any direction - from the production of food and cosmetics from honey to some very different areas of agriculture. From growing ginseng to breeding, I do not know the Amur tigers.

And, most importantly - if you do not want, then there generally can not go. Although, how not to want to stand on your own hectare of the Far East?

What do you think?

If you are ready to discuss this, put a plus in the comments, I'll include you in the appropriate group.



Repost is welcome.


The post has received more than 100 "reposts" and over 600 likes. Comments to the post swept the wave of "pluses" - over the weekend they gathered a few hundred. At the same time, some responses were adjusted to a discussion mode.

Peter Shkumatov. Ideal topic for the blockbuster) ... Relatively speaking, the cooperative emits its own crypto currency for internal settlements and, probably, for the sale of honey and anything else to China. Accordingly, internal relationships (who, what and to whom) are based on smart contracts, hence there is no need for courts, notaries and other parasites. The costs are sharply reduced. Well, and so on)

Mikhail Shlyapnikov The most attractive thing about this topic is that, as usual, you do not need to work! He took a hectare, Uzbeks plow, honey bees gather, the Chinese buy, we sit, and the money goes! There is an even better theme - we take the same hectare, we sow with seeds of a birch, through 25 years we sell silly Chinese on sticks for rice.

Roman Antholz I did not understand: why bees / their hives / such a hectare. Bees do not need a land registration certificate to collect honey. A hive placed very compact. Many apiaries - on the wheels move "after" the blooming fields

Artemka Khryakov The idea is beautiful in thought, but utopian in the concrete implementation. Beekeeping is a very delicate matter, with a lot of nuances that have been known for many years. My friend, in a neighboring village, brought his apiary to 100 hives in three years, earned, then invested all the money in the expansion - and terribly burned out, because of the beehive morale.
In addition, there is a population limit - if there is a lack of honey plants around, the bees steal honey from neighboring hives. (Why now exit hives are often made on trucks).
And a lot of small, but important problems. Moreover, in the Far East the climate is changing more fatal than in the European part of Russia.
In short, this externally beautiful question, I would have studied in detail, m. With departure to the place.

Elena Semina Maybe the apiary to combine with the hotel infrastructure? According to the principle of "agritourism" - near an apiary, simple wooden houses with a simple kitchen, your cucumbers, tomatoes and potatoes, fresh air, breathe, recover. In Europe, it is developed. And to call there to rest the same tired of the overwork of the Chinese. Why? In China, the air is not fresh, natural products, too. The Chinese travel the most in the world. And here everything is near

Viktor Sirotin Dear Dmitry, I give you my due, for the naivety of your plans is much more than just a pump with a "Far Eastern hectare" lowered from above. In general, the beginning of this campaign is irresponsible, not to say - stupid. You can not give in to geopolitical (just like that!) Provocations. What do you want? It should examine the entire "hectare" of the Far East. Scientists - archeologists, geological prospectors, business executives, land development specialists, architects, etc., should be connected to the problem. Having studied the climatic zones, natural deposits and land features, draw up a long-term program to revitalize the entire Far East. Geographic, climatic and other maps of the region need to be thoroughly explored and - where necessary - to arrange recreation and comfortable living areas, where it is beneficial - to develop agricultural assets, create industrial zones (mining of raw materials, etc.). In other words, the topic needs to be solved COMPLEX, not jerky ...

Sergey Rodygin Hectare at 200 km from Moscow is cheaper than a flight to Vladik. To control this hectare is much easier, you can at least as a summer cottage on weekends to ride.

Lukashev Vladimir I remind you, it already was. But "Hectare" was then called "Voucher." )

Olga Dyachenko Bears will eat honey all)